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Mar 21st, 2016 at 7:22am
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So we know HKRI is proposing 2 new towers behind Coral and Crystal.

I looked into it. they are trying to change 170sqm of staff quarters footage into 21600sqm of private flats. They also said there are 476 flats in the two towers, which i have no idea how they are going to do that. Basically everyone on the sides and back of Cyrstal, Coral and Woods will be stared into by a wall of flats, not to mention the construction and already-full-bus situation: http://www.info.gov.hk/tpb/tc/plan_application/Attachment/20160318/s12a_Y_I-DB_2...

Anyway, the planning application is gazetted now, so we can write to object (the joys of 'open' governance).

Go here http://www.info.gov.hk/tpb/en/plan_application/Y_I-DB_2.html
click on ‘Make Comments’ and copy and paste the text in a 'here's-one-I-prepared-earlier' below into the comments section in this google doc http://tinyurl.com/parkvale, or write your own, better, comments.

Deadline April 8.
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Reply #1 - Mar 21st, 2016 at 8:07am
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Oh joy.

Other than signing the form is there anything that we can do to oppose this?
  
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Reply #2 - Mar 21st, 2016 at 8:13am
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Not only am I concerned with the amount of construction work and the added "issues" such as increased building vehicles, and at least another 476 flats, what about the schools and facilities in DB, the buses are already over crowded and at times do not feel safe, there is already waiting lists for the schools. There is nothing "free" for children beyond play parks.
  
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Reply #3 - Mar 21st, 2016 at 8:29am
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Uploading images from the PDF for others to quickly see.

Excerpt:
- long term vision to better utilise the existing land resources at DB to serve a larger population...

- two areas (6f & 10b) will create 1,600 units for 4,000 persons in total

- application seeks to amend DB OZP No. S/I-DB/4.

- proposed development is sensitive to the adjacent development and natural setting.

- considered responsive to Chief Executive's Policy Address 2015 advocating for additional housing supply

- Area 6f... already approved development yet to be implemented... at a site of minimal natural conservation value.

- given due regard for mountain backdrop and the relationship with the existing residents.

Wow! can you believe all the above? Did they ever consult any of the residents living near the site? Smiley







  
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Reply #4 - Mar 21st, 2016 at 8:47am
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I'm not sure I'm reading this right, but are they proposing diverting the stream down the hill as well for this?

That would mean no more swimming hole if it's true.
  
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Reply #5 - Mar 21st, 2016 at 11:58am
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Has anyone asked the barking deer about their loss of habitat?

Some years ago I prepared this slide for a DB Christmas COC/VOC party quiz.



I can now tell you the answer...... Move away from Parkvale or Hillgrove.

Seriously though, HKU , Chinese U and/or Kadoorie Farm.....I hope you are onto this?

We have so little fauna left in HK, Lantau was always their last stand.
  
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Reply #6 - Mar 21st, 2016 at 12:36pm
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Taking care of fauna is not very profitable.
  
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Reply #7 - Mar 21st, 2016 at 1:20pm
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+1
about the issue regarding schools!!  Angry
  
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Reply #8 - Apr 6th, 2016 at 5:17am
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380 objections so far, 2 days left, 2 days left!! We need more!

More info has been posted here
http://dbconfidential.com/?p=944

Amy Yung has issued a new 'model' objection letter. It takes one minute, do it now!

3 steps to OBJECT:

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Click here http://www.info.gov.hk/tpb/en/plan_application/Y_I-DB_2.html

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Click on ‘Make Comments’

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COPY and PASTE text from this link http://tinyurl.com/parkvaleinto the comments section, and feel free edit and add your own comments. Add your details and submit.

  
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Reply #9 - Apr 6th, 2016 at 6:02am
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Sent mine, working on as many as another 8 for that and 10b.

Where can you see the number of objections please?
  
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Reply #10 - Apr 6th, 2016 at 6:34am
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HK1980 wrote on Apr 6th, 2016 at 6:02am:
Sent mine, working on as many as another 8 for that and 10b.

Where can you see the number of objections please?


http://www.info.gov.hk/tpb/en/plan_application/Y_I-DB_2.html

its the number in brackets behind the deadline date and above the 'Make Comment' link
  
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Reply #11 - Apr 6th, 2016 at 6:40am
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Thank you.

But in theory a number of those could be in support, no?
  
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HK1980 wrote on Apr 6th, 2016 at 6:40am:
Thank you.

But in theory a number of those could be in support, no?


Yes, in other posts people suggested HKRI has self submitted many, through staff, families, squirrels and hamsters, favourable submissions (perfectly probable, not sure how they know for sure though).

thats why we need to send more 'real' submissions in.
  
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Reply #13 - Apr 6th, 2016 at 7:07am
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Info on the development, http://amyung.org.hk/news.php?id=622
including:

Application papers by HKR to amend DB outline zoning plan (behind Parkvale)(6f)
Application papers by HKR to amend DB outline zoning plan (at Peninsula)(10b)
Briefing Handout
Amy Yung's Powerpoints: 6f (behind Parkvale)/10b (at Peninsula)
Andrew Burn's Powerpoint
Letter to COC from Jeremy Marriott, HKR, on 10 July, 1995
COC Meeting Minutes, 17 July, 1995
Extracts from Parkvale Village Sub-DMC
Legal Advice on Major Roads and Passageways from JSM

Model Submissions to Town Planning Board - Area 10b and 6f:
http://amyung.org.hk/news.php?id=624
  
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Reply #14 - Apr 7th, 2016 at 3:58am
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parkvaledevelopment wrote on Apr 6th, 2016 at 6:44am:
HK1980 wrote on Apr 6th, 2016 at 6:40am:
Thank you.

But in theory a number of those could be in support, no?


Yes, in other posts people suggested HKRI has self submitted many, through staff, families, squirrels and hamsters, favourable submissions (perfectly probable, not sure how they know for sure though).

thats why we need to send more 'real' submissions in.


Dont forget people can send an email directly so that will not be included in the count.
  
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Reply #15 - Apr 7th, 2016 at 2:38pm
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I am not sure if it would make any difference, but I sent in my objection anyway.  Hope more people would do the same.
  
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Reply #16 - Apr 8th, 2016 at 3:14am
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The deadline is today!!!
Model Submissions to Town Planning Board - Area 10b and 6f (bottom of this link)
http://amyung.org.hk/news.php?id=624

  
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Reply #17 - Apr 13th, 2016 at 4:44am
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News just in that the Town Planning Board received 1,888* submissions concerning the proposed Area 6f development (behind Parkvale). Not too sure how many of those were 'in favour'  but I am guessing that most were against. HKR cannot be too happy about learning this.

The area 10b (Nim Shue Wan "New Town") had 1309 submissions.

* ( lets hope that might be a lucky number)
  
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Reply #18 - Jun 25th, 2016 at 10:39am
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And it's back....6F development be discussed in Town Planning Board on 2016/8/26.

http://www.info.gov.hk/tpb/tc/plan_application/Y_I-DB_2.html

They added some amendments to their submission. Looks like they are addressing the road ownership issue raised by many submissions.

Anyone knowledgeable looking at this?
  
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Reply #19 - Jun 26th, 2016 at 3:36am
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parkvaledevelopment wrote on Jun 25th, 2016 at 10:39am:
And it's back....6F development be discussed in Town Planning Board on 2016/8/26......
They added some amendments to their submission.


You provided the Chinese version link; it's probably more convenient to provide this direct link to the English version:

http://www.info.gov.hk/tpb/en/plan_application/Y_I-DB_2.html

And did you note that TPB comment in the section headed Further Information Received on 13/06/2016 ?

It states "Decision : "Accepted but Not Exempted from Publication".

This suggests HKR appllied for their new responses not to be published but this was rejected. They never miss an opportunity to try to sneak around our backs.  Angry


  
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Reply #20 - Jun 27th, 2016 at 3:38am
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SayNoToPrivateCars wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 3:36am:
parkvaledevelopment wrote on Jun 25th, 2016 at 10:39am:
And it's back....6F development be discussed in Town Planning Board on 2016/8/26......
They added some amendments to their submission.


You provided the Chinese version link; it's probably more convenient to provide this direct link to the English version:

http://www.info.gov.hk/tpb/en/plan_application/Y_I-DB_2.html

And did you note that TPB comment in the section headed Further Information Received on 13/06/2016 ?

It states "Decision : "Accepted but Not Exempted from Publication".

This suggests HKR appllied for their new responses not to be published but this was rejected. They never miss an opportunity to try to sneak around our backs.  Angry




Anybody who knows the situation better than me know what the extra responses were?  All I can see in the link from the planning application are the same drawings and photos from before.
  
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Reply #21 - Jun 28th, 2016 at 4:00am
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Application Y/I-DB/3 Area 10b Responses to departmental and public comments and enclosing revised Landscape Master Plan, Traffic Study, Environmental Study and additional photomontages.

http://amyung.org.hk/upload/pdf/DB_development/Lands.pdf
  
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Reply #22 - Jun 28th, 2016 at 8:28am
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Both Responses by HKR are available for download.

Responses to departmental and public comments
回應部門及公眾人士的意見

Area 10b: http://amyung.org.hk/news.php?id=743
Area 6f: http://amyung.org.hk/news.php?id=744
  
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Reply #23 - Jun 30th, 2016 at 12:05am
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The revised submissions for 6f and 10b are also available on dbConfidential.com.
  
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So the text from http://dbconfidential.com/?p=1024#more-1024 (in short HKR maybe making up population data for their own advantage) and/or http://dbconfidential.com/?p=1058#more-1058 (sewerage from new developments has nowhere to go...which ironically could force them to be the greenest devleopment in Hong Kong: on site sewerage plants like overseas rural solutions, like reedbeds and such like) makes a ready made copy-and-paste submission:

1. go here: http://www.info.gov.hk/tpb/en/plan_application/Y_I-DB_2.html

2. click 'Make a new comment' link near the bottom of the table

3. Copy and paste text from the links above, fill in your details. You dont need to be a owner; you can submit multiple submissions per household. As from the previous round of submissions (http://dbconfidential.com/?p=992) , we have seen DB staffers submit multiple entries per person.
  
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Reply #25 - Jul 3rd, 2016 at 12:26pm
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Just to make that clear - for 6f they have to build a SEWAGE TREATMENT PLANT. ON SITE BEHIND THE WOODS, because government says they cannot use the existing government facilities on the other side of the tunnel for this.

If you DONT WANT TO LIVE NEXT TO A SEWAGE TREATMENT PLANT, OBJECT. Follow the steps below. Every voice counts: we don't want to look like the Remain Campaign. Cool

DEADLINE 15 JULY.

parkvaledevelopment wrote on Jul 3rd, 2016 at 3:47am:
So the text from http://dbconfidential.com/?p=1024#more-1024 (in short HKR maybe making up population data for their own advantage) and/or http://dbconfidential.com/?p=1058#more-1058 (sewerage from new developments has nowhere to go...which ironically could force them to be the greenest devleopment in Hong Kong: on site sewerage plants like overseas rural solutions, like reedbeds and such like) makes a ready made copy-and-paste submission:

1. go here: http://www.info.gov.hk/tpb/en/plan_application/Y_I-DB_2.html

2. click 'Make a new comment' link near the bottom of the table

3. Copy and paste text from the links above, fill in your details. You dont need to be a owner; you can submit multiple submissions per household. As from the previous round of submissions (http://dbconfidential.com/?p=992) , we have seen DB staffers submit multiple entries per person.


online document with instrucitons and links, for sharing outside this forum, here: http://tinyurl.com/parkvale
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Reply #26 - Jul 4th, 2016 at 3:23am
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Are you sure its a "treatment plant", to me on the plan it looks like a pumping station which is what it in the small building next to the tennis courts ?

A full treatment plant will need a lot more space than is being shown in on the plans and would need a lot of level ground.
  
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Reply #27 - Jul 4th, 2016 at 4:10am
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Here is what HKR says in their reply for Area 6f: "The sewerage arrangement has been amended so as no longer to refer to SHWSTW (Siu Ho Wan Sewage Treatment Works), but an on-site sewerage treatment plant.
  
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Well if you look at the "gist" on the planning application, it shows it connecting to the existing pipeline and connts out to the Siu Ho Wan Treatment Works, so not sure what else they need to do.

So are you saying they are going to build a full rotating sludge pool up next to the towers ?
  
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That plan from the first gist is now out of date. The full details are on dbConfidential.com, but basically the EPD accused HKR of lying and told them to delete all references to Siu Ho Wan. HKR now say that they will figure out the details of how to treat the sewage and dispose of the effluent after they get planning permission.
  
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HardHat wrote on Jul 4th, 2016 at 5:12am:
That plan from the first gist is now out of date. The full details are on dbConfidential.com, but basically the EPD accused HKR of lying and told them to delete all references to Siu Ho Wan. HKR now say that they will figure out the details of how to treat the sewage and dispose of the effluent after they get planning permission.


dbconfidential link:
http://dbconfidential.com/?p=1058
http://dbconfidential.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/ozp/DB%20Area%206f%20MR%20Applic...
  
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Reply #31 - Jul 5th, 2016 at 1:49am
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Extra arguments, this time about ownership of the brick paved road behind the woods (essential as 6f needs the road to access the development.)

Follow the instructions above, but use new argument here: http://dbconfidential.com/?p=1096#more-1096

parkvaledevelopment wrote on Jul 3rd, 2016 at 12:26pm:
Just to make that clear - for 6f they have to build a SEWAGE TREATMENT PLANT. ON SITE BEHIND THE WOODS, because government says they cannot use the existing government facilities on the other side of the tunnel for this.

If you DONT WANT TO LIVE NEXT TO A SEWAGE TREATMENT PLANT, OBJECT. Follow the steps below. Every voice counts: we don't want to look like the Remain Campaign. Cool

DEADLINE 15 JULY.

parkvaledevelopment wrote on Jul 3rd, 2016 at 3:47am:
So the text from http://dbconfidential.com/?p=1024#more-1024 (in short HKR maybe making up population data for their own advantage) and/or http://dbconfidential.com/?p=1058#more-1058 (sewerage from new developments has nowhere to go...which ironically could force them to be the greenest devleopment in Hong Kong: on site sewerage plants like overseas rural solutions, like reedbeds and such like) makes a ready made copy-and-paste submission:

1. go here: http://www.info.gov.hk/tpb/en/plan_application/Y_I-DB_2.html

2. click 'Make a new comment' link near the bottom of the table

3. Copy and paste text from the links above, fill in your details. You dont need to be a owner; you can submit multiple submissions per household. As from the previous round of submissions (http://dbconfidential.com/?p=992) , we have seen DB staffers submit multiple entries per person.


online document with instrucitons and links, for sharing outside this forum, here: http://tinyurl.com/parkvale

  
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Reply #32 - Jul 8th, 2016 at 2:04am
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A Full list of suggested ready-made comments from dbconfidential.com

Follow the instructions above, copy-and-paste text from these posts:
  1. http://dbconfidential.com/?p=1024 On population numbers
  2. http://dbconfidential.com/?p=1058 On sewage treatment
  3. http://dbconfidential.com/?p=1096 On road ownership
  4. http://dbconfidential.com/?p=1117 On open space management (and who pays)
  5. http://dbconfidential.com/?p=1142 On water supply capacity
  6. http://dbconfidential.com/?p=1133 On LPG supply capacity


parkvaledevelopment wrote on Jul 3rd, 2016 at 12:26pm:
If you DON'T WANT TO LIVE NEXT TO A SEWAGE TREATMENT PLANT, OBJECT. Follow the steps below.

DEADLINE 15 JULY.

1. go here: http://www.info.gov.hk/tpb/en/plan_application/Y_I-DB_2.html

2. click 'Make a new comment' link near the bottom of the table

3. Copy and paste text from the links above, fill in your details. You dont need to be a owner; you can submit multiple submissions per household.
  
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Reply #33 - Jul 11th, 2016 at 1:56am
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Dont forget you can comment on the changes and Nim Shue Wan here http://www.info.gov.hk/tpb/en/plan_application/Y_I-DB_3.html
  
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Reply #34 - Jul 11th, 2016 at 7:12am
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just saw this on amy's facebook

<Sample submissions for Areas 6f (behind Parkvale) and 10b (Service Area at the waterfront of Peninsula Village)>

Download here: http://amyung.org.hk/news.php?id=751
  
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Reply #35 - Jul 14th, 2016 at 2:08pm
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One day left for submissions, please send in your views by tomorrow Friday night!
parkvaledevelopment wrote on Jul 8th, 2016 at 2:04am:
A Full list of suggested ready-made comments from dbconfidential.com

Follow the instructions above, copy-and-paste text from these posts:
  1. http://dbconfidential.com/?p=1024 On population numbers
  2. http://dbconfidential.com/?p=1058 On sewage treatment
  3. http://dbconfidential.com/?p=1096 On road ownership
  4. http://dbconfidential.com/?p=1117 On open space management (and who pays)
  5. http://dbconfidential.com/?p=1142 On water supply capacity
  6. http://dbconfidential.com/?p=1133 On LPG supply capacity


parkvaledevelopment wrote on Jul 3rd, 2016 at 12:26pm:
If you DON'T WANT TO LIVE NEXT TO A SEWAGE TREATMENT PLANT, OBJECT. Follow the steps below.

DEADLINE 15 JULY.

1. go here: http://www.info.gov.hk/tpb/en/plan_application/Y_I-DB_2.html

2. click 'Make a new comment' link near the bottom of the table

3. Copy and paste text from the links above, fill in your details. You dont need to be a owner; you can submit multiple submissions per household.

  
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Reply #36 - Jul 15th, 2016 at 6:44am
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Reply #37 - Jul 16th, 2016 at 4:05am
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DBconfidential site has just put up a new post about the just-submitted submission from Parkvale VOC to the Town Planning Board concerning  Area 6f .

The link is here :

http://dbconfidential.com/?cat=18

or you go straight to the full Parkvale submission via this link:

http://dbconfidential.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/PVOC-on-Area-6f-Second-S...

I must say I find it puzzling why Peninsula residents and owners have not got together to submit a VOC  objection to the proposal to have a sewage treatment plant right next to their properties.  It must be that they like the prospect of  perhaps "rising property values" greater than the smell of "XXXX" blowing through their bedroom windows.
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Reply #38 - Jul 16th, 2016 at 6:53am
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Nim Shue Wan with September 12.  Start.
  
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Reply #39 - Jul 19th, 2016 at 6:30am
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what do you mean? EZ_Education wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 6:53am:
Nim Shue Wan with September 12.  Start.

  
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Reply #40 - Jul 19th, 2016 at 2:34pm
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Not totally surprised, majority of the village actually faces away from the area, which to be honest is a bit of an open mess at the moment. The boat dwellers will be impacted most but they're probably not represented at the VOC right? Also the village is quite large and spread out so I heard even things like renovations take ages to be agreed upon (I heard some of the high rises haven't had a renovation for many many years because they just couldn't get concensus).

Somehow I think the 6f is a diversion or a 'good to have', 10b is the real goal in these applications.

SayNoToPrivateCars wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 4:05am:
DBconfidential site has just put up a new post about the just-submitted submission from Parkvale VOC to the Town Planning Board concerning  Area 6f .

The link is here :

http://dbconfidential.com/?cat=18

or you go straight to the full Parkvale submission via this link:

http://dbconfidential.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/PVOC-on-Area-6f-Second-S...

I must say I find it puzzling why Peninsula residents and owners have not got together to submit a VOC  objection to the proposal to have a sewage treatment plant right next to their properties.  It must be that they like the prospect of  perhaps "rising property values" greater than the smell of "XXXX" blowing through their bedroom windows.

  
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Reply #41 - Jul 20th, 2016 at 3:53pm
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SayNoToPrivateCars wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 4:05am:
I must say I find it puzzling why Peninsula residents and owners have not got together to submit a VOC  objection to the proposal to have a sewage treatment plant right next to their properties.  It must be that they like the prospect of  perhaps "rising property values" greater than the smell of "XXXX" blowing through their bedroom windows.


I don't think the Peninsula VOC members will have their seaviews blocked by the new towers. The Peninsula VOC chair even supported the application, which would explain why objections weren't on the agenda.

The major issue faced by the village is that it's always had a high proportion of short-term renters, who are less likely to get engaged with planning issues. Many landlords may be happy to see a glammed-up Nim Shue Wan push up their property values.

Which is all bad news for long-term residents.
  
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Reply #42 - Jul 23rd, 2016 at 2:06am
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dbConfidential.com is publishing the latest responses to the Town Planning Board consultation. Seems that DB is going to solve the housing shortage in Hong Kong. Just need room for a few sewage treatment plants.
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Reply #43 - Aug 26th, 2016 at 10:44pm
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HKRI applied deferment to the two applications and was approved. http://www.info.gov.hk/tpb/en/whats_new/Gist_Decision/563_rpc_Gist_e.pdf

Despite being told they shouldn't get a second deferment the first time they got one as pointed out by dbconfidential.com.

Either they are stretching it out so everyone looses interest (distract us by digging up more roads maybe), or they are getting more time to get TPB members on board, or something more sinister......
  
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Reply #44 - Nov 18th, 2016 at 4:11am
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The Town Planning Board has just revealed HKR's third submission in their attempt to gain approval.

They are obviously trying to wear us all down with their repeated submissions,hoping we shall just throw in the towel. Angry

Haven't got the full details yet. But we have only until 9 December to respond to their latest bull.

Anyone who can provide an upload/download link to the TBP full (3rd) HKR mission, please post the link on this forum as soon as possible.
This is the TPB Listing:

Y/I-DB/2
Area 6f, Lot 385 RP & Ext. (Part) in D.D. 352, Discovery Bay
To rezone the application site from "Other Specified Uses" annotated "Staff Quarters (5)" to "Residential (Group C) 12"
Responses to departmental and public comments and enclosing revised Master Plan, Landscape Proposal, Environmental Study, planning statement, updated photomontages and other supplementary information.
9 December 2016

  
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Reply #45 - Nov 18th, 2016 at 6:15am
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Bookmark this page of TBP for quick access to application listings
http://www.info.gov.hk/tpb/en/plan_application/plan_application.html
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Section 12A - Application for Amendment of Plan
Application No. Y/I-DB/3
Comments Deadline: Dec 9, 2016
Next Meeting: Jan 13, 2017

Gist: To convert the entire Nim Shue Wan pier area into Residential Units & Promenade (i.e. Area 10b)
http://www.info.gov.hk/tpb/en/plan_application/Y_I-DB_3.html

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Section 12A - Application for Amendment of Plan
Application No. Y/I-DB/2
Comments Deadline: Dec 9, 2016
Next Meeting: Jan 13, 2017

Gist: To convert Staff Quarters at Parkvale Village into Residential Units (i.e. Area 6f)
http://www.info.gov.hk/tpb/en/plan_application/Y_I-DB_2.html

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Section 17 - Review of TBP's Section 16 (i.e. Application for Permission) decision
Application No. A/I-DB/6
Comments Deadline: Nov 4, 2016 -- no comments submitted
Next Meeting: Dec 16, 2016 (Edit: It's 2016)

Gist: Proposed House (New Territories Exempted House) -- To review the refusal decision of the application
http://www.info.gov.hk/tpb/en/plan_application/A_I-DB_6.html
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Reply #46 - Nov 18th, 2016 at 7:03am
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So where have HKR worked out and specified how they are not going to use existing sewer and water systems ?

I thought they were told they could not do this, but looking at the plans there are no new treatment works, just pipes connecting to the existing utilities.
  
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Reply #47 - Nov 21st, 2016 at 12:53am
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UpHigh wrote on Nov 18th, 2016 at 7:03am:
So where have HKR worked out and specified how they are not going to use existing sewer and water systems ?


Although they do not elaborate and specify exactly where they propose to build it, they have written in their 3rd submission that a new "small "sewage treatment plant would be built within area 6f. The area around the "Woods" high-rise blocks is known for its abnormally high winds for several months each year, so residents of PV, Hillgrove, La Vista and La Serene  can forward to some pleasant odours wafting their way when the wind is in a favourable direction.
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Reply #48 - Nov 21st, 2016 at 7:08am
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Could you clarify, will the comments made on the previous version still be considered by the Town Planning Board, or do we have to submit them again?
  
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Reply #49 - Nov 21st, 2016 at 4:11pm
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Rear Commodore wrote on Nov 21st, 2016 at 7:08am:
Could you clarify, will the comments made on the previous version still be considered by the Town Planning Board, or do we have to submit them again?


I honestly cannot answer this with certainty. If the TPB exercise due diligence they should consider all previous submissions when having their final deliberations..... but in practice will they ? Undecided

For this reason I am including an opening  cross reference to the contents of my previous submissions and quote the individual TPB 'Comments' reference numbers, which were allocated to each submission they received. You can find the reference numbers of your earlier submissions in the uploaded scans of all of these (posted on dbconfidential.com) .

I am not repeating all my previous submissions because the sheer volume  would probably discourage members of the TPB from reading the whole. I want them to concentrate on my new points, which include bringing to their attention specific points of my earlier submissions which have received no response from either the Applicant (HKR) or from the Governments Departments which should be interested. Cool
  
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